反中資入股台IC產業 黃國昌:莫忘石斑吩 - 工程師
By Charlie
at 2016-06-18T22:06
at 2016-06-18T22:06
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※ 引述《mhh4567 (river)》之銘言:
: 中國三大電信業者之一,已經要求10月之後,入庫的手機2000 人民幣以上的要有Cat.7
: 規格,聯發科只有Cat.6, 但展訊已經是Cat.7,華為早已經有Cat.9 產品!
: 所以純論通訊技術,大陸廠商早就不輸人!華為遇到的問題 和三星相同,同樣的手機場
: 商,用華為 和三星的晶片,等於幫住對手,所以他們不會希望用對手的產品!
: 扶植聯發科當Second source,可以用來跟高通砍價,等到展訊更成氣候,聯發科就危險
: 了,光毛利率從49%到現在接近35%,警訊已經很明顯!
: 為了台灣產業競爭力,希望大家多點理性,才是真的為台灣好!
華為跟Nokia(Alcatel Lucent), Ericsson(Nortel),
等通訊巨頭同為通訊設備製造商
通訊基地台設備的技術難度跟通訊消費終端設備的技術相比
就通訊技術來說基地台端遠遠難過消費設備端
單就spec的厚度不知道差了幾倍了
所以單就通訊技術來說
希望這麼專業的板不要再爭論了
華為的通訊技術能力絕對不會輸給MTK
甚至是遠勝於MTK的
MTK所擅長的, 得以擊敗這些國際大廠的
是成本控制, 做一個耗電低die size小的通訊IC
這些技術是很純粹的IC設計技術, 包括後段從DFT到APR的一系列後段技術
與domain knowledge無關的
所以海思用16nm 擊敗MTK 28nm, 這一點也不稀奇
因為單就通訊技術來說海思本來就比MTK強的
IC技術海思直接靠TSCM支援, 同時間MTK還在跟TSMC掙選CP值最高的製程
海思不求獲利, 直接用最先進製程
這場戰爭中, 通訊技術MTK本來就是輸的
IC設計上通敵的是TSMC
有本事的話請黃大立委呼籲TSMC禁止高階製程接大陸設計公司的單
否則一面把最先進好吃的石斑魚賣給大陸
然後禁止吃不到台灣石斑魚的MTK去買大陸石斑是完全不合理的
請黃大國師搞清楚受害者跟受益者
現在受益者被當作台灣之光
受害者被當作賣台
這是完全不合理的
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: 中國三大電信業者之一,已經要求10月之後,入庫的手機2000 人民幣以上的要有Cat.7
: 規格,聯發科只有Cat.6, 但展訊已經是Cat.7,華為早已經有Cat.9 產品!
: 所以純論通訊技術,大陸廠商早就不輸人!華為遇到的問題 和三星相同,同樣的手機場
: 商,用華為 和三星的晶片,等於幫住對手,所以他們不會希望用對手的產品!
: 扶植聯發科當Second source,可以用來跟高通砍價,等到展訊更成氣候,聯發科就危險
: 了,光毛利率從49%到現在接近35%,警訊已經很明顯!
: 為了台灣產業競爭力,希望大家多點理性,才是真的為台灣好!
華為跟Nokia(Alcatel Lucent), Ericsson(Nortel),
等通訊巨頭同為通訊設備製造商
通訊基地台設備的技術難度跟通訊消費終端設備的技術相比
就通訊技術來說基地台端遠遠難過消費設備端
單就spec的厚度不知道差了幾倍了
所以單就通訊技術來說
希望這麼專業的板不要再爭論了
華為的通訊技術能力絕對不會輸給MTK
甚至是遠勝於MTK的
MTK所擅長的, 得以擊敗這些國際大廠的
是成本控制, 做一個耗電低die size小的通訊IC
這些技術是很純粹的IC設計技術, 包括後段從DFT到APR的一系列後段技術
與domain knowledge無關的
所以海思用16nm 擊敗MTK 28nm, 這一點也不稀奇
因為單就通訊技術來說海思本來就比MTK強的
IC技術海思直接靠TSCM支援, 同時間MTK還在跟TSMC掙選CP值最高的製程
海思不求獲利, 直接用最先進製程
這場戰爭中, 通訊技術MTK本來就是輸的
IC設計上通敵的是TSMC
有本事的話請黃大立委呼籲TSMC禁止高階製程接大陸設計公司的單
否則一面把最先進好吃的石斑魚賣給大陸
然後禁止吃不到台灣石斑魚的MTK去買大陸石斑是完全不合理的
請黃大國師搞清楚受害者跟受益者
現在受益者被當作台灣之光
受害者被當作賣台
這是完全不合理的
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